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    ERBE speed control settings

    I picked up my ERBE today. It came sooner than I expected since my LHS said 2 weeks. It came in 4 days!

    Anyhow, the kid came in was was a regular e-revo box and had a few stickers over it to indicate that it was the brushless kit.

    Inside the box is a 5605 manual and no Traxxas documentation related to the brushless items. There is a little book from Castle called "Castle Drivers Ed".

    Pretty lame that there is no specific documentation. I found the addendums on the Traxxas site with the exploded view of the ESC and a supplement to the manual. It says "The Castle Creations Mamba Max speed control should not need reprogramming with normal use."

    My question is what settings did they use? I will list what the Castle book says are the defaults
    - Brake setting - Reverse Lockout
    - Brake amount - 50% power
    - Reverse amount - 50% power
    - Punch - Disabled
    - Drag brake - Off
    - Cutoff voltage - NONE
    - Motor timing - Normal
    - Motor Type - Brushless


    This ESC has a cutoff voltage to make it compatible with LIPO but If Traxxas kept the Castle defaults its disabled. There is NOTHING in the manuals or addendums to tell me I need to enable that setting if I use LIPO. Aren't most people with ERBE using LIPO? Did you change anything on the ESC?

    I am about to buy the Castle Link kit just to see what the settings are currently.

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    Eric, you can go through and do the settings on the mmm via using the lights and sounds if you have to. Basically I think you'd have to go through each of the possible settings and reset them though, PITA, but doable.
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    The thing that is really stupid is I called Traxxas and they told me the ERBE didn't have a cutoff and I would need to buy one.

    I find it amazing that to make this thing work optimally it is over $1000 for the truck, charger, and batteries yet Traxxas can't give basic instruction so I do not destroy the truck or batteries. Its a good thing there are good people on the net willing to share information.

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    Auto for the LVC is default in the ERBE. A little research on the forum, and you have all the answers you need.
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    I have read this forum for the past 2 weeks for a few hours per day and have not come across this bit of information. Sorry for inconveniencing you.

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    FWIW, mine came with the Cutoff set to Auto. Idk why yours didn't.
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    No inconvenience to me.......

    Here, I did some searching for you:
    http://monster.traxxas.com/showpost....4&postcount=12
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    Castles drivers ed manual does state that the lvc is set to off by default. And I just defaulted my spare mmm and sure enough it turns the lvc off. But if you wan't to know if the auto lipo is on simply hook up your lipos ,turn on the esc and listen for the cell chimes. If you use 4s it should chime 4 quick times. 6s will chime 6 quick times. If you hear nothing you need to get the castle link.
    Last edited by slowenuff; 03-21-2009 at 12:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericdc
    The thing that is really stupid is I called Traxxas and they told me the ERBE didn't have a cutoff and I would need to buy one.
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    They must have misunderstood and thought you were asking about the stock e-revo and not the brushless one.


    As for chachi's comment, I think he just meant that you did the right thing coming here and asking the ppl on this forum.

    most ppl here are willing to help you find answers you are looking for.
    Sometimes they just answer, others like to link to previous threads.

    In any case, I'm pretty sure the ERBE comes with the auto lipo enabled.
    You best bet is to get the castlelink tho. it makes adjustments easier.
    be nice.

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    Yup, Hoov is right....just trying to point you in the right direction for the info you are asking for. Also, as I mentioned above, the ERBE's MMM is preset to auto for the LVC, making sure that the new buyer doesn't have to worry about their Lipos right out of the box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chachi_RC
    the ERBE's MMM is preset to auto for the LVC, making sure that the new buyer doesn't have to worry about their Lipos right out of the box.
    Exactly what I wanted to know. Thanks very much. Looking forward to trying out the Lipos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericdc
    Exactly what I wanted to know. Thanks very much. Looking forward to trying out the Lipos.
    The way to know this is working is that when you plug your packs in, then switch it on, you will here the start up tones, followed by a series of beeps. If you have 4s plugged in, you will here 4 beeps, 5 beeps for 5s, and 6 beeps for 6s. Once you hear that, you know it is in auto mode.
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    Cutoff Voltage
    Sets the voltage at which the ESC lowers or removes power to the motor in order to either keep the battery at a safe minimum voltage (Lithium Polymer cells) or the radio system working reliably (NiCad/NiMH cells).
    Setting 1: None (Default)
    Does not cut off or limit the motor due to low voltage. Do not use with any Lithium Polymer packs!

    Applications: Any racing or bashing situation with 6-8 cell NiCad or NiMH packs.use this setting ONLY with NiCad or NiMH packs. With continued driving, the radio system may eventually cease to deliver pulses to the servo and ESC, and the vehicle will not be under control.

    You will irreversibly damage Lithium Polymer packs with this setting!

    Setting 2: Auto-Lipo
    This setting allows you to go back and forth between 2 and 3 cell lipo packs without having to change the cutoff voltage for each one. The ESC automatically sets the cutoff voltage correctly for a 2 or 3 cell pack when that pack is plugged in.
    Setting 3: 5v
    Cuts off/limits the motor speed/acceleration when the pack gets down to 5 volts. A good setting for racing or bashing in any vehicle using 8-12 NiMH or NiCad packs.
    Setting 4: 6v
    Cuts off/limits acceleration when the pack gets down to 6 volts.
    A MUST USE setting for 2 cell (7.4v) Lithium Polymer packs. You will irreversibly damage your packs using a lower cutoff voltage!
    Setting 5: 9v
    Cuts off/limits acceleration when the pack gets down to 9 volts.
    A MUST USE setting for 3 cell (11.1v) Lithium Polymer packs. You will irreversibly damage your packs using a lower cutoff voltage!
    Setting 6: 12v
    Cuts off/limits acceleration when the pack gets down to 12 volts.
    A MUST USE setting for 4 cell (14.8v) Lithium Polymer packs. You will irreversibly damage your packs using a lower cutoff voltage!
    Setting 7: 15v
    A MUST USE setting for 5 cell (18.5v) Lithium Polymer packs. You will irreversibly damage your packs using a lower cutoff voltage!
    Setting 8: 18v
    A MUST USE setting for 6 cell (22.2v) Lithium Polymer packs. You will irreversibly damage your packs using a lower cutoff voltage!
    Does this still apply??

    I thought I read that the "Default" for LIPO batterys was set to AUTO. Above quoted post does not say that.

    How do I know when I hit the LVC threshhold. Only when the car stops down the street when I am making my laser passes?

    Is there a warning beep?? kinda like the "Healthy heartbeat" when all is well.

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    GMAN, I think that excerpt is from the Castle Drivers Ed manual, which is somewhat correct, but more general with the information. The default for the MMM that comes in the ERBE is auto for the LVC, but I don't think it is set that way on the MMM Combo that you buy seperately. The LVC is a soft LVC, in that it just really slows down your truck. It isn't a cutoff really. At least that is what I noticed when mine kicked in. You will notice, as the power is really limited.

    Is this what you were asking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chachi_RC
    GMAN, I think that excerpt is from the Castle Drivers Ed manual, which is somewhat correct, but more general with the information. The default for the MMM that comes in the ERBE is auto for the LVC, but I don't think it is set that way on the MMM Combo that you buy seperately. The LVC is a soft LVC, in that it just really slows down your truck. It isn't a cutoff really. At least that is what I noticed when mine kicked in. You will notice, as the power is really limited.

    Is this what you were asking?
    Exactly... Now that post is recent and really should be Titled MMM CONFIGURATION SETTINGS because people searching for ERBE setting will find this and get confused.

    We should speak or post as specific as possible as ERBE BRUSHLESS is different from MMM Brushless or CC Brushless.


    Quote Originally Posted by Chachi_RC
    The LVC is a soft LVC, in that it just really slows down your truck. It isn't a cutoff really. At least that is what I noticed when mine kicked in. You will notice, as the power is really limited.
    I would love to have a set of warning beeps every 15 - 30 seconds to alert you of the LVC so I don't toast my batteries. Should be upgradeable through a software update, if I am not wrong.

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    I noticed the same eric.

    The small Castle instructions brochure states the voltage cut off is set to disabled as default setting.

    On the other side I'm pretty sure in the reality it is set to auto.

    To be further sure I bought a castle link so when it will arrive to me I will able to dig into the details changing everything to suit my own preferences.

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    If you buy the MM Combo by itself, the LVC is turned off. I know the E-Revo BL edition is supposed to have the LVC turned to auto. I wouldn't even take a chance. Just program the LVC. It's not hard at all. Just a pain to take off the receiver cover and remove the plug to plug into the castle link port. Plus you might eventually have to program throttle punch or other things so it's good to get used to it right away. I did this last weekend and the castle link program is very very easy to use.

    Sorry I forgot you guys with BL edition don't get the Castle Link with it which is just very very stupid.

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    Again, you will know it is on auto by the series of beeps when you turn on the MMM. It will beep the number of cells you have hooked up to it if it is in auto. If it is not in auto, it won't beep the cell count. Very simple to tell if it is or isn't in auto mode......and you don't need the Castle Link to tell that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chachi_RC
    Again, you will know it is on auto by the series of beeps when you turn on the MMM. It will beep the number of cells you have hooked up to it if it is in auto. If it is not in auto, it won't beep the cell count. Very simple to tell if it is or isn't in auto mode......and you don't need the Castle Link to tell that.
    can you use auto for 4S and 6S? The book only says 3S.
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    Again, the book is a general manual from Castle not specific to the MMM. Yes, you can use auto for basically any cell count, as it AUTO detects the number of cells. Reall, you aren't going to the MMM on 3s, although some do, but really it is going to be used with 4, 5, or 6s.
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    Here are the default settings from my ERBE








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    Thanks for the pics of the settings!

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