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    Upgrades?

    Hey,
    While im waiting for my strc shocks/TiN shafts get restocked, what other upgrades should i get to increase performance? (have a vxl bandit)

    (have tires/rpm front bumber so far)

    -Willing to spend up to $50
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    If you are waiting for them to be in stock on the STRC site them have fun waiting!!!!! Well, you could get an aluminum transmission case. It looks nice and keeps the temps down. Or the RPM arms or a fiberglass suspension tie bar with the sus. pins. I have those and they really help with the plastic bulkhead. I also have a fiberglass front shock tower which is a little lighter, looks nice IMO and is not as flexible as the stock plastic one. On the top of the list though, I would put STRC or Traxxas aluminum caster blocks. They really help with almost everything. The stock ones breaks and bend pins like crazy. That's what I'm getting after my fleshless comes. Here is a great Pit Pass article. I printed it out and it comes in handy a lot. Keep in mind, it was made by Traxxas so they are ALL Traxxas parts. STRC parts are cheaper and just as durable in some cases.

    Looks pretty kool eh?



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    definately aluminium casters
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    aluminum casters onyl help in durability right?
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    And they look kool! They are way stronger so it will save you money.
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    lol kk xD

    Anything else important to buy?
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    While your at it with the shocks, get a couple of shock rebuild kits and some Associated "green slime" shock lube. I put STRC shocks on a month ago and upgraded the rear shafts to the TiN units. I had a slight leak from the shaft/lower o-rings before I swapped the TiN shafts that looked to be from the o-rings I reused from my plastic shocks. So I grabbed a rebuild kit for fresh o-rings. I noticed after the install of the TiN shafts they still leaked out the lower end. Not a lot but enough to make the lower spring retainers wet.

    I emailed STRC about it and I got a good response addressing the leak. They noted that they use the TiN shafts with the STRC bodies on thier personal Slash projects. They noticed the same thing. They told me in the email that the TiN shafts are just a tiny bit smaller than the all steel shafts. He said that could be a minor source of the leak. He recommended using NEW o-rings when building the shocks. Next he recommended the Associated Green Slime. He said to coat the two lower o-rings and spacer, install them and the lower cap. Then put a small amount on the threaded end of the shaft and push it through the lower end of the body. He said the Slime will allow a slight swelling of the o-rings and lubricate them as the shaft cycles through it's range of motion.

    I haven't been able to get the slime as my LHS has been closed. I'll get some next week. The only thing I wasn't sure of was what they said about the difference in outer diameter of the TiN shaft vs stock. So I broke out my dial calipers which are good down to .001". Both measured in at the same amount. But it doesn't explain why my fronts didn't leak with the stock shafts and the rears did with the TiN shafts. I'll get the slime and follow the guide they sent me.

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    Ok! Ill like to know what happens
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    You also have to be carefull how much shock oil you put in the STRC bodies. They advised that if you overfill them, the excess pressure when the shock compresses has to go somewhere. The upper cap is not going to leak or pop off like the stock version so the only place for it to go is out the bottom. Fill the shock half way and cycle the piston slowly to work out the air. Then fill to just below the top. Give yourself enough room for the bladder to go into the shock body without displacing any oil. Screw on the cap and push the shaft in and let it rebound on it's own. If it's filled correctly it will push the shaft back out 1/4" quickly and then slowly push further out from there. IF you overfilled it the shaft will push out past 1/4" quickly and could be as much as half the travel or more. He advised to remove the upper cap and drain a little out and retry. Keep doing this until you hit the 1/4" fast and then it slowly rebounds from there.

    Add that to the use of the slime and your new shocks should be sealed up nicely and work smoothly.

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    Also, if possible, can you send me a copy of the guide also?
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    you got all of it in both of my posts.

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    kk, thanks for the help
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    spare bearing are good to, and with the bandit the pin that holds casters onto a-arms is slightly larger so you have to get casters specifically desighned for bandit or drill the hole slightly bigger in rusty casters
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    Know any Caster blocks that are specifically made for the bandit?
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    Bandit castors are the EXACT same as rustler. Bandits have kingpins that use e-clips not the screw pins like the rustlers. You can use the kingpins for a bandit on the TRX castor blocks. If you get STRC blocks you can ONLY use the bandit style kingpins with e-clips. That is unless you have a 3mm tap to thread the hole for the rustler style screw pin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoomad
    Bandit castors are the EXACT same as rustler. Bandits have kingpins that use e-clips not the screw pins like the rustlers. You can use the kingpins for a bandit on the TRX castor blocks. If you get STRC blocks you can ONLY use the bandit style kingpins with e-clips. That is unless you have a 3mm tap to thread the hole for the rustler style screw pin.
    The strc castor blocks I have are threaded, I also bent one the first time out so I dont think they are that strong. I have the Traxxas castor blocks and I feel they are stronger

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    Unless they changed it recently, they still show on the website that the 3470 kinpin set is needed if you are installing on a VXL or Slash.

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    My sister just went to the hobby store to get some paint..and she wanted to buy me something, but she only had $2.50 left over to get something..so she randomely bought the "team associated black grease"..just curious, what do i use that for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by arvint
    My sister just went to the hobby store to get some paint..and she wanted to buy me something, but she only had $2.50 left over to get something..so she randomely bought the "team associated black grease"..just curious, what do i use that for?
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    lol..really..?
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    Also,
    whats the difference between these different color springs?

    http://www.integy.com/st_prod.html?p...55&p_catid=109
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    is it that the heavier ones are for off roading, and lighter is for on road?
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    harder springs absorb more force acompanied with heavier oil from jumps but wont handle as well as softer springs and lighter oil.

    zoomad, i couldnt get the integy casters to fit and had to drill hole slightly bigger.
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    So if i want better handling, i should go with green springs right? ( i only ave 70w oil with me at the moment)
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    Quote Originally Posted by arvint
    So if i want better handling, i should go with green springs right? ( i only ave 70w oil with me at the moment)
    What makes you say the green ones? It's 100% user preference. I also don't recommend 70wt shock oil, but what do I know. Save your money and buy something worthwhile like caster blocks, aluminum transmission case etc.
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    I mean..i already have the shocks :/
    Sigh..and again..my lhs recommended 70w shock..i should start not listening to them
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    70w shock oil is very hard id try 40. you can use the clip on spacers to adjust the strength of your stock springs.
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    Yeah, I bought 50 and 25, and ended up with 25.
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    lol Ty your a funny guy, just reading through this thread all the info you provided is great info, and its what we have been trying to drill into your head on a regular basis with all your upgrade threads i think you finally got it


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiernan85
    lol Ty your a funny guy, just reading through this thread all the info you provided is great info, and its what we have been trying to drill into your head on a regular basis with all your upgrade threads i think you finally got it


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    If i want to get shock oil that works great on road..but still could be used off road..would i go for aroung 40wt?
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    hm..if im using these springs: http://www.integy.com/st_prod.html?p...55&p_catid=109 ...and i do about 90% on road/ 10% offroad, what wt shock oil would work best? 30wt?
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    Have almost stock bandit (with anacondas/dirt hawgs/rpm bumper)
    Now that i got the strc shocks on order and i bought some aftermarket springs..whats next? (still have around $40 left in budget)

    P.S (Gonna get caster blocks later on)
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    Quote Originally Posted by arvint
    Have almost stock bandit (with anacondas/dirt hawgs/rpm bumper)
    Now that i got the strc shocks on order and i bought some aftermarket springs..whats next? (still have around $40 left in budget)

    P.S (Gonna get caster blocks later on)
    Upgrade when something breaks. LiPo maybe.
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    Ok

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    40wt is a good starting point for shock oil. I like my setup to be a little firmer than stock. My bro did put 80wt in his to try and firm it up for street running. It was ROCK solid and was way too much. he's gone back to 40wt.

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    40 wt is good with the springs i posted right?
    here are springs: http://www.integy.com/st_prod.html?p...55&p_catid=109
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    Quote Originally Posted by arvint
    40 wt is good with the springs i posted right?
    Should work out. It's just about in the middle. I believe shock oil is somewhere between about 10 and 75 weight. Like I said, I use 25 and I really like the reaction rate!
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    Thanks for the help guys
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