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    Slash 4X4 LCG Upgrade List?

    Brand new unused Slash 4X4 arrived today.

    Upgrade list to be ordered asap includes:

    Hot Racing LCF38X06 LCG Aluminum HD Bearing Motor Mount
    ST7490B Heatsink Motor Plate Blue Slash 4x4 LCG/Rally STRC0286 ST Racing
    Traxxas 6893X Blue-Anodized Aluminum Bearing Adapter (with bearing)
    Traxxas 6898 Sway Bar Kit Slash 4x4
    Yeah Racing Aluminum 540 Brushless Motor Twin Fan Heat Sink Blue Car #YA-0408BU
    Traxxas 3340 Cooling Fan Velineon ESC

    Traxxas 2970 EZ-Peak Plus 4-Amp NiMH/LiPo Fast Charger with iD Auto Battery Identification
    Deciding on 2s or 3s battery!

    Considering:

    MIP 10130 10132 keyed Front & Rear X-Duty CVD Kit Slash 2WD / 4X4 V2
    Traxxas 1952X Blue Anodized 6061-T6 Aluminum Rear Stub Axle Carriers (pair) - Cant find the front set???

    Is there anything else I should be considering or anything missed??

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    don't consider cvd's... get them before you plan on running 3s regularly. if you don't find those mip x-duty's consider tekno m6's. the only downside would be that you wouldn't be able to run those aluminum steering blocks but tekno's are beefy anyway.
    i run both and both are fantastic.
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    I highly recommend that you get a set of MIP X-DUTY axles! I have had a set of MIP X-DUTY axles since June 2011! They are still going strong. I will run them for a long time to come.
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    Cheers guys.
    Can I use the MIP X-DUTY axles with the aluminium axle carriers, and the parts Squeegie kindly linked to above? I've read they can rub?
    If not, what's the alternative?
    Thanks.

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    IftiBashir, some tips for your consideration from my experience already:
    I'd say 3S Lipo is the right way for me. If you want to go with it though you will need Traxxas Tall Battery Hold-Downs (Model# 7426X). I run mine with 3S but don't have the 7426X delivered yet so I was impatient and was using duck type to hold the 3S battery to the chassis (highly not recommended). I was so luck I didn't damage anything, during bashing the battery went fully untight, not that I didn't damage the car from a crash in a rock anyway LOL.
    And also since I had to clean the car several times after use I find it very vary useful to have my Dusty Motors Protection Cover Shroud on. You may want to consider it too.
    Another one which came handy for me was the RPM Front Bulkhead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IftiBashir View Post
    Cheers guys.
    Can I use the MIP X-DUTY axles with the aluminium axle carriers, and the parts Squeegie kindly linked to above? I've read they can rub?
    If not, what's the alternative?
    Thanks.
    You can use the xdutys with aluminum axle carriers as long as you install them correctly. Mine rubbed like crazy but the po of my slash installed them incorrectly. And if you run them you would need the stock a arms, not rpm. Rpm has too much flex for these heavy duty axles


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulliver View Post
    IftiBashir, some tips for your consideration from my experience already:
    I'd say 3S Lipo is the right way for me. If you want to go with it though you will need Traxxas Tall Battery Hold-Downs (Model# 7426X). I run mine with 3S but don't have the 7426X delivered yet so I was impatient and was using duck type to hold the 3S battery to the chassis (highly not recommended). I was so luck I didn't damage anything, during bashing the battery went fully untight, not that I didn't damage the car from a crash in a rock anyway LOL.
    And also since I had to clean the car several times after use I find it very vary useful to have my Dusty Motors Protection Cover Shroud on. You may want to consider it too.
    Another one which came handy for me was the RPM Front Bulkhead.
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    Thanks for your video link on my post!
    Thanks for this - will the shroud have any effect on cooling?

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    The shroud will increase the internal temp a few degrees. Depending on your home climate, it may not make a difference.

    As for battery holders, you can always get medium PureTechs:
    http://puretechproducts.com/ptprod_dpsa.htm
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    Look at upgrading your A-Arms. The stock ones won't "twist" and flex as much as the RPm but they break easier.
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    RPM Front Bulkhead - Ive read that since this does not have the holes the stock bulkhead has, debris can get caught and held inside. Is this the case??
    What are the advantages of changing the bulkhead otherwise?


    Quote Originally Posted by StampedeSwag13 View Post
    Look at upgrading your A-Arms. The stock ones won't "twist" and flex as much as the RPm but they break easier.
    Will be installing Tekno M6's all round - not keen on the RPM A-Arms due to the flex. Are there are others that are more rigid, yet better then stock?? Maybe go aluminium (although not sure if I should add the extra weight??).

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    Quote Originally Posted by IftiBashir View Post
    RPM Front Bulkhead - Ive read that since this does not have the holes the stock bulkhead has, debris can get caught and held inside. Is this the case??
    What are the advantages of changing the bulkhead otherwise?




    Will be installing Tekno M6's all round - not keen on the RPM A-Arms due to the flex. Are there are others that are more rigid, yet better then stock?? Maybe go aluminium (although not sure if I should add the extra weight??).
    I would stay away from aluminum a arms. That's the most common part to break IMO and it'll be easier just to replace that piece instead of trying to bend an aluminum one back into its original shape. I like my stock ones. They work just fine for my bashin.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IftiBashir View Post
    Thanks for this - will the shroud have any effect on cooling?
    It will definitely have some impact on the temperatures. Since I will be running 2.8s tires on 3S Lipo this is also a concern for me and in my case I try to mitigate any risk with:
    1) Velineon VXL-3s Cooling Fan for the ESC; - you have it already
    2) Motor Heatsink with 2 Cooling Fans; - you have it already
    3) Heatsink Motor Plate; - you have it already
    4) Aluminum HD Bearing Motor Mount; - you have it already
    5) temperature telemetry sensor (on the passive side).

    ... so I don't think you will have heat problems with your setup...

    My runs with the shroud so far were with the stock tires at relatively cool weather (temp. of 10-15 C) and I didn't notice any sign of overheating. But when I complete the MT upgrade I will need to closely follow the temperature from the sensor on the Traxxas Link app. To be hones I don't expect any major problems with temps but I will report more on this during the summer when local temperatures reach 35 C .

    Quote Originally Posted by IftiBashir View Post
    RPM Front Bulkhead - Ive read that since this does not have the holes the stock bulkhead has, debris can get caught and held inside. Is this the case??
    What are the advantages of changing the bulkhead otherwise?
    The RPM Front Bulkhead in my opinion will give you more protection since the bottom of the car is not exposed as much as with the stock bulkhead...and chances of getting something in there regardless if it stays there or not are way lower.

    Quote Originally Posted by IftiBashir View Post
    Will be installing Tekno M6's all round - not keen on the RPM A-Arms due to the flex. Are there are others that are more rigid, yet better then stock?? Maybe go aluminium (although not sure if I should add the extra weight??).
    I consider the reasonable flex of the A-Arms as a benefit as it absorbs the energy and prevent breaking (of course I am not talking about extremes). (and I have the stock a-arms as spare anyway)

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    Thanks for all your input guys.

    RPM front bulkhead added to shopping list! lol
    I think Im going to see how the stock A-Arms perform for a bit before I decide on what to do there

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    OK, so currently in my shopping basket for my stock 4X4 LCG:

    - Duratrax Pit Tech Deluxe Work Stand for Radio Controlled Vehicle Models
    - Traxxas 2970 EZ-Peak Plus 4-Amp NiMH/LiPo Fast Charger with iD Auto Battery Identification
    - Traxxas 6898 Sway Bar Kit Slash 4x4
    - RPM Slash 4x4 and Rally LCG Front Bulkhead, Black
    - Hot Racing LCF38X06 LCG Aluminum HD Bearing Motor Mount
    - ST Racing ST7490B Cnc Machined Heat Sink Motor Plate (Blue)
    - Yeah Racing Aluminum 540 Brushless Motor Twin Fan Heat Sink Blue Car #YA-0408BU
    - Traxxas 6893X Blue-Anodized Aluminum Bearing Adapter (with bearing)
    - Traxxas 3340 Cooling Fan Velineon ESC
    - Tekno RC 6852x Rear M6 Drive Shafts/Hub Carrier
    - Tekno RC 6851x FRT M6 Drive Shafts/Steering Blocks
    - Tekno RC 6855 Big Bone Center Driveshaft and Outdrives
    - Traxxas 7426X Tall Battery Hold-Downs

    Yet to purchase - 3s LiPo......

    Before I pull the trigger, any suggestions?
    Thanks to all!
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    a good servo
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    Quote Originally Posted by RazorRC22 View Post
    a good servo
    I've seen you mention a good/better servo in a couple of different threads. Is that common ? I haven't had a 2075 go out on me in 5 different cars on the past 5 years.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxxBash View Post
    I've seen you mention a good/better servo in a couple of different threads. Is that common ?
    Is what common?

    I haven't had a 2075 go out on me in 5 different cars on the past 5 years.
    There's more to how good a servo is than whether it is broken or not.

    The 4x4 VXL Slash is a pretty good truck out of the box, with a $10 plastic servo.
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    I wouldn't get the Traxxas EZ Peak 4 amp Charger. It's too slow. I'd get something like the 10 amp Hitec X2. You can charge batteries twice as fast. I love mine. https://www.horizonhobby.com/HRC4423...FcRgfgodXHsEMw


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    Quote Originally Posted by RazorRC22 View Post
    Is what common?



    There's more to how good a servo is than whether it is broken or not.

    The 4x4 VXL Slash is a pretty good truck out of the box, with a $10 plastic servo.
    My servo needs are fine as far as bashing. I assumed you meant they break easily so you upgrade them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RazorRC22 View Post
    a good servo
    Any recommendations?

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    I love my Spektrum s6230 in my slash...

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00BI...QXL&ref=plSrch
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    Currently looking into shocks. Are GTRs the way to go?
    To be used for light bashing only, mainly runs on short grass, asphalt, and loose gravel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IftiBashir View Post
    Currently looking into shocks. Are GTRs the way to go?
    To be used for light bashing only, mainly runs on short grass, asphalt, and loose gravel.
    GTRs are a good all around choice.
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    I've found the GTR shocks to be very reliable and tough. I've flipped it many times going over 50mph on grass and never had an issue with the shocks, unlike the ultra shocks on my rustler where the caps constantly popped off (until I upgraded to aluminium caps).

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    Quote Originally Posted by IftiBashir View Post

    - Traxxas 6898 Sway Bar Kit Slash 4x4
    - RPM Slash 4x4 and Rally LCG Front Bulkhead, Black
    - Hot Racing LCF38X06 LCG Aluminum HD Bearing Motor Mount
    - ST Racing ST7490B Cnc Machined Heat Sink Motor Plate (Blue)
    - Yeah Racing Aluminum 540 Brushless Motor Twin Fan Heat Sink Blue Car #YA-0408BU
    - Traxxas 6893X Blue-Anodized Aluminum Bearing Adapter (with bearing)
    - Traxxas 3340 Cooling Fan Velineon ESC
    - Tekno RC 6852x Rear M6 Drive Shafts/Hub Carrier
    - Tekno RC 6851x FRT M6 Drive Shafts/Steering Blocks
    - Tekno RC 6855 Big Bone Center Driveshaft and Outdrives
    - Traxxas 7426X Tall Battery Hold-Downs
    Guys, with the above on order and still awaiting delivery, I'm now looking at GTR shocks with VGRacing Springs.
    Which shock oil would you say I would be best with??
    Car used for general bashing - nothing too high or extreme, mainly on road, short grass, and some loose dirt runs etc.

    50w??

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    Current wish list / still to purchase:

    Savox SW1211SG Servo
    Servo Horn - not sure which yet?.....
    Bell Crank - Hot Racing or STRC?....

    VGRacing Chassis Brace

    Traxxas GTR Shocks
    Team Associated Shock Oil - Not sure whether to go for 40 or 50w?...
    VGRacing Springs

    Castle Creations Mamba X SCT Sensored 25.2V WP ESC & 1415-240​0Kv 5mm Combo

    Duratrax Flashpoint Infrared Temperature Gauge


    And then I think I'm done!!!!

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    So wasn't quite done!
    Now Im adding to the wish list!

    Current wish list / still to purchase:

    Savox SW1211SG Servo
    Servo Horn - Team Losi Servo Horn 24T Aluminum
    Bell Crank - Hot Racing or STRC?....

    VGRacing Chassis Brace

    Traxxas GTR Shocks
    Team Associated Shock Oil - Not sure whether to go for 40 or 50w?...
    VGRacing Springs

    Castle Creations Mamba X SCT Sensored 25.2V WP ESC & 1415-240​0Kv 5mm Combo

    Duratrax Flashpoint Infrared Temperature Gauge

    6511 Wireless Module
    6521 Temp and Voltage Sensor
    GPS Module

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