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    Upgrading rustler to brushless

    Hello, I got a rustler for my birthday this one here http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/...10470631.aspx?
    and I want to upgrade it to a brushless system.
    Can I just go with the motor (http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/...10425188.aspx?)
    or do I need to upgrade to this one- http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/...10300949.aspx?
    I would like to hope I can just change the motor to brushless as the box says it is brushless ready. Thanks for the help.

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    Gotta get the esc and motor. You can find suitable cheaper options if you desire. Look at castle combos. The 3800kv would be good. What batteries do you want to run. Where do you live, where you'd order this stuff from bestbuy.

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    What does the esc do and I need it or is it just recommended for easier driving ? I live in Alberta so most likely would get parts from Best Buy. Where can you get castle combos?

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    The ESC= Electronic Speed Control, it controls the motor. You can get Castle combos from Tower Hobbies.
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    Upgrading rustler to brushless

    You must have a brushless esc, to operate a brushless motor. There are 2 wires on your motor and 3 on brushless motors
    eBay, tower hobbies, thousands of places. The prices you linked are just high for US dollars

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    Ryankc13, welcome to the forum and the hobby.

    Us oldtimers are here to help the new kids. Not one of us were born with RC knowledge. Many of us learned things the hard way (<$)!

    Given your posts, you are very new to this overwhelming world of RC. No worries. The Rustler is ready to have a brushless system put in it. I recommend newbies get the VXL-3S/Velineon system because it is a direct drop in. You will need to know how to plug the ESC wires in the receiver, how to change the pinion gear(the gear on the motor), how to install the motor, and how to program the ESC. This is going to require using the manual, tools, and blue thread lock for the grub screw (what holds the pinion on the motor shaft).

    Should you have questions on any of this stuff, don't hesitate to ask.

    Again, welcome.

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    Tower Hobbies is a great website. Here's the link for the system:
    http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXEKAT&P=ML
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    Thank you very much, so I do need the esc for the brushless or can I just drop the new motor straight in. I am very new, I ad some radio shack rc cars and then a lite hawk previously.

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    The Titan 12T and XL-5 are brushed items. Brushed motor and brushed ESC respectively. A brushed system.

    You will need the Velineon and VXL-3s brushless items. Brushless motor and brushless ESC respectively. A brushless system.

    The XL-5 will not work with the Velineon motor.

    You are going to have to purchase both together. This is called a combo or system.
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    https://www.amainhobbies.com/castle-...dAmhoCb2jw_wcB

    So this combo would work correct?

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    Sorry or would this set up workbetter. https://www.amainhobbies.com/castle-...123-02/p618580
    Also when I do switch to the brushless system will I have to upgrade other components?

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    I'd go with the 3800. 4600 will get hotter quicker

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    So based off of your guy's experience which do you prefer the castle creations or the traxxas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryankc13 View Post
    So based off of your guy's experience which do you prefer the castle creations or the traxxas?
    Castle has more programmable features than the Velineon. Soldering would be required on the Castle but the Velineon is plig and play. Both are good options and btw the 4600 runs just as good as the 3800 and really does not get any hotter. I run the 4600 with NO temp issues.
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    This is the combo I run in my Rusty on 3S but, I am into overkill.

    https://www.amainhobbies.com/castle-...160-01/p578320
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryankc13 View Post
    Sorry or would this set up workbetter. https://www.amainhobbies.com/castle-...123-02/p618580
    Also when I do switch to the brushless system will I have to upgrade other components?
    That's a very good question Ryan. The easy answer is "no" as the car will run with the brushless system installed (ESC and motor), but you'll still have the XL5
    suspension. As you start driving and bashing with the more powerful brushless system your suspension will be under higher stress and parts will start breaking. Have you mastered the brushed set up? Not meaning to deter you from the upgrade but don't want you to become frustrated after you go brushless and find that you need to upgrade your parts after every run. That said, if you're set on going brushless I recommend you get the Velineon system to start with.

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    The number one, immediate, absolutely mandatory upgrade for a Traxxas 2wd vehicle is aluminum castor blocks. The plastic castor blocks are the weakest part of the vehicle. The stock plastic castor blocks flex causing the king pin to bend subsequently ruining the steering.

    https://www.amainhobbies.com/traxxas...ra3632x/p25817

    https://www.amainhobbies.com/st-raci...st3632r/p29552

    There are additional upgrades, but they are not mandatory, even when running a brushless system:
    Ball bearings to replace the bushings at the axles
    Aluminum shock caps — ST2267R (if the stock plastic caps pop off)
    STRC hardened polished steel suspension hinge pins with nylon lock nuts — ST3640BK (if the stock pins keep backing out)
    STRC 12mm aluminum lock-pin hex hubs — ST3654-12GM (so you won't strip out the inside of a wheel socket)
    Traxxas hardened steel, titanium nitride coated shock shafts – F: 2765T, R: 2656T (when the stock ones get bent)
    New tires for better grip and handling
    Steel driveshafts (when the stock plastic break)
    Losi linear springs for more suspension predictability, stability, and handling

    Etc., etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wmorgan View Post
    That's a very good question Ryan. The easy answer is "no" as the car will run with the brushless system installed (ESC and motor), but you'll still have the XL5
    suspension. As you start driving and bashing with the more powerful brushless system your suspension will be under higher stress and parts will start breaking. Have you mastered the brushed set up? Not meaning to deter you from the upgrade but don't want you to become frustrated after you go brushless and find that you need to upgrade your parts after every run. That said, if you're set on going brushless I recommend you get the Velineon system to start with.
    Okay thank you. To be honest with you I haven't even drove it yet..

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