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    Vorza D8 Shocks

    My Vorza D8 Shocks just arrived and i guess due to reading so many different "how to's" i missed the fact that i needed some longer screws to mount the shocks in the rear with the stand-offs...

    While i am waiting to go out and get some, i'm just wondering how many other people here still run or have run 1/8 scale shocks on their stampedes??? Seems its quite popular on slashes before, but not so much pedes???

    Anyway, hope to update with some pics onces its all installed and working properly, till then lets see yours on your trucks if you got them mounted!!!

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    So i know without pictures this thread isn't mean much... so now that i got them installed on with the pics!!!

    The original Traxxas Stampede 4x4 Shocks next to the new Vorza 1/8 Shocks:


    Comparison of the two when installed on the rear:


    Comparison of the two from a side view:


    Can see how close they are to the shafts:




    Now the car easily has around a half inch of space below the body and the floor when fully compressed, which for me i kind of like so the car can't bottom out...

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    Those look great!!!

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    ^ Thanks, i've often read how people said after installing these shocks they said it made a huge difference...

    I naturally wanted to also see just how well they worked and flew the car off some 3-4' ledges and the landings were smooooth like butter, so all i can say is on my brief test, these shocks seem to be living up to the hype...

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    That's really good to hear. I've also been debating on getting the d8 shocks too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Ghost- View Post
    My Vorza D8 Shocks just arrived and i guess due to reading so many different "how to's" i missed the fact that i needed some longer screws to mount the shocks in the rear with the stand-offs...

    While i am waiting to go out and get some, i'm just wondering how many other people here still run or have run 1/8 scale shocks on their stampedes??? Seems its quite popular on slashes before, but not so much pedes???

    Anyway, hope to update with some pics onces its all installed and working properly, till then lets see yours on your trucks if you got them mounted!!!
    Ghost! I really like those shocks. Thanks for the info. I put them on my list as soon as i saw them. Sweet, I will tear up my big bores first though....
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    Quote Originally Posted by sayoda View Post
    That's really good to hear. I've also been debating on getting the d8 shocks too.

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    I kept hearing over and over again in older threads how great these shocks are, and for me personally i find them pretty darn sweet...

    Quote Originally Posted by lektro View Post
    Ghost! I really like those shocks. Thanks for the info. I put them on my list as soon as i saw them. Sweet, I will tear up my big bores first though....
    Yeah for sure!!! would also love to see how you find the D8's compared to other big bores...

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Ghost- View Post
    I kept hearing over and over again in older threads how great these shocks are, and for me personally i find them pretty darn sweet...



    Yeah for sure!!! would also love to see how you find the D8's compared to other big bores...
    I can just look at them and tell they are far more superior. I believe your statement about landing soft as butter.
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    Been using them for a long time, love them. No need to use stand offs on rear(see 2nd pic, 3rd pic is good view from top, sorry bout yellow dots lol), but if you do use them on rear, spin them around. It looks like the standoff is installed backwards. The spacer part should be against shock tower and skinny part that shock goes on is pointed forward.... 3-4' huh, lol, ive landed 8'+ jumps with mine many many times! Heres a good thread on them: https://forums.traxxas.com/showthrea...69#post6172269

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    ^ Thanks for the heads up, going to check the standoffs...

    As for the jumps, yeah the best i could find close to my place was a small drop, so its great to hear you been doing 8 footers with no problems... guess it also means i need to go hunting for some spots...

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Ghost- View Post
    ^ Thanks for the heads up, going to check the standoffs...

    As for the jumps, yeah the best i could find close to my place was a small drop, so its great to hear you been doing 8 footers with no problems... guess it also means i need to go hunting for some spots...
    I dont have any pics of the real high jumps...
    https://youtu.be/sa2BojZo4TE

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    I got some traxxas GTR shocks from dollar hobbies when they used to sell take-offs. Seems to be a plug n play option (edit, i lied. I had to buy longer screws at hardware store. that's it).. Been jumpin high with no pop offs. Still waiting for the fronts to crap out before I switch those out.






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    Quote Originally Posted by almach1 View Post
    I got some traxxas GTR shocks from dollar hobbies when they used to sell take-offs. Seems to be a plug n play option (edit, i lied. I had to buy longer screws at hardware store. that's it).. Been jumpin high with no pop offs. Still waiting for the fronts to crap out before I switch those out.
    Nothing wrong with gtr's they are good too! I run them in summit, erbe & sr rustler. I really like the D's for the boot it keeps fluid clean. I do believe you can buy socks/boots for gtr shocks too though...

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    Do you use D8's on the front and rear? Do you use D8 fronts for both or fronts for front and rear for rear? Just curious since the two shocks on the stampede are different lengths.
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    Use same on both, its all in the D8 thread I linked to in post #9(Link didnt work for me so re-linked below.). I dont remember the shaft length on them but 4 of the same ones in the link on post #32 in that thread work just fine for front and rear.

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    EDIT: I see link isnt working hopefully this one does:
    https://traxxas.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6172269
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    Quote Originally Posted by Briber View Post
    Use same on both, its all in the D8 thread I linked to in post #9(Link didnt work for me so re-linked below.). I dont remember the shaft length on them but 4 of the same ones in the link on post #32 in that thread work just fine for front and rear.

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    EDIT: I see link isnt working hopefully this one does:
    https://traxxas.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6172269
    Briber, I've read the post that you linked a couple times now, but I don't see anything explaining why the same length D8's get used on the pede's F&R, when the stock shocks are different lengths. Is it as simple as the longer D8's are simply TOO long?

    It looks like the HPI Flux uses 97mm Front, and 112 mm Rear shocks. And we should be using the 97mm (60mm shock coil) for the F&R. I found the Vorza's in a 106mm length w/ 70mm shock coils (they have to be assembled though, not factory built). Is it possible that these could be used on the p4de rear since they aren't as long as the 112's?

    The post you linked too also has a mention of:
    Kyosho IF346-05 Shock End Set
    being needed. What is this set for? These parts appear as though they are part of the shock kit.

    Thank you for your help. I'm sorry for the complete noob questions.
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    Well, I upped the oil in my shocks to associated 80 weight and it still slaps the ground pretty hard. However, I made it through a skate park bash session and didn't make my spur any worse. The holes in the stock shock pistons must be huge, because they still compress/rebound very easily with 80 weight in them...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottsd30 View Post
    Briber, I've read the post that you linked a couple times now, but I don't see anything explaining why the same length D8's get used on the pede's F&R, when the stock shocks are different lengths. Is it as simple as the longer D8's are simply TOO long?

    It looks like the HPI Flux uses 97mm Front, and 112 mm Rear shocks. And we should be using the 97mm (60mm shock coil) for the F&R. I found the Vorza's in a 106mm length w/ 70mm shock coils (they have to be assembled though, not factory built). Is it possible that these could be used on the p4de rear since they aren't as long as the 112's?

    The post you linked too also has a mention of:
    Kyosho IF346-05 Shock End Set
    being needed. What is this set for? These parts appear as though they are part of the shock kit.

    Thank you for your help. I'm sorry for the complete noob questions.
    Post # 32 i believe it was is most important one, er33 says exactly what to get. Do not get the disassembled ones they are wrong and in that thread a member admits he linked me to those and was wrong.

    The reason the same size works is because of the big bore. There is plenty of dampening because of the large volume of oil that needs to go through the piston so shock can "absorb" shocks without bottoming out. I can tell you personally that Ive used them for a long time and they work fantastic. If using a shorter shock on rear truck will be lower than front. All you need are assembled shock set and 2 standoffs for mounting the front shocks. I opted to buy set of gray springs for options when tuning suspension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Briber View Post
    Post # 32 i believe it was is most important one, er33 says exactly what to get. Do not get the disassembled ones they are wrong and in that thread a member admits he linked me to those and was wrong.

    The reason the same size works is because of the big bore. There is plenty of dampening because of the large volume of oil that needs to go through the piston so shock can "absorb" shocks without bottoming out. I can tell you personally that Ive used them for a long time and they work fantastic. If using a shorter shock on rear truck will be lower than front. All you need are assembled shock set and 2 standoffs for mounting the front shocks. I opted to buy set of gray springs for options when tuning suspension.

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    Thanks Briber!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottsd30 View Post
    Thanks Briber!
    Your welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottsd30 View Post
    Briber, I've read the post that you linked a couple times now, but I don't see anything explaining why the same length D8's get used on the pede's F&R, when the stock shocks are different lengths. Is it as simple as the longer D8's are simply TOO long?

    It looks like the HPI Flux uses 97mm Front, and 112 mm Rear shocks. And we should be using the 97mm (60mm shock coil) for the F&R. I found the Vorza's in a 106mm length w/ 70mm shock coils (they have to be assembled though, not factory built). Is it possible that these could be used on the p4de rear since they aren't as long as the 112's?

    The post you linked too also has a mention of:
    Kyosho IF346-05 Shock End Set
    being needed. What is this set for? These parts appear as though they are part of the shock kit.

    Thank you for your help. I'm sorry for the complete noob questions.
    I know this few months old. But here's what I've done with my d8's few yrs ago lol
    https://forums.traxxas.com/showthrea...e-build/page11
    Post 419 shows difference in lengths of the front vorza shocks compared to the rear ones. Now there's a few ways to get what you want. For me I used the longer rod ends on the front shocks to run on the rear of my pede and slash. I've modified those shocks many times to get the ride height I wanted. I went from bashing to speed runs and loved those shocks that I did anything to keep them on which ever ride I built. They're just so much smoother then any other shock I've tried

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    ^ i think i read through that thread a few times when i first looked into these shocks and can say definitely one of the best purchases...

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Ghost- View Post
    So i know without pictures this thread isn't mean much... so now that i got them installed on with the pics!!!

    The original Traxxas Stampede 4x4 Shocks next to the new Vorza 1/8 Shocks:


    Comparison of the two when installed on the rear:


    Comparison of the two from a side view:


    Can see how close they are to the shafts:




    Now the car easily has around a half inch of space below the body and the floor when fully compressed, which for me i kind of like so the car can't bottom out...
    I really want these, and I have the hardware for installation, but I can't spend 100$ on it
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    While they arent cheap they definitely are some amazing shocks if you can find them for a good deal..

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    Nearly impossible to find now... at least without spending the cost of the entire truck. Hopefully, HPI will start churning out vehicles again so I can pick up a set of these shocks at a reasonable cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kreeg View Post
    Not those, they are 101116. The part # needed is 101850 or thats whats in thread and what Ive bought. That shock is what I used on front and rear of P4de and works perfectly on all 4 corners of the P4de. I need just one more rc, then Im done,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Briber View Post
    Not those, they are 101116. The part # needed is 101850 or thats whats in thread and what Ive bought. That shock is what I used on front and rear of P4de and works perfectly on all 4 corners of the P4de. I need just one more rc, then Im done,
    You meant 101115 right? Also, the grey springs 67446 are best to use with them, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by olds97_lss View Post
    You meant 101115 right? Also, the grey springs 67446 are best to use with them, right?
    The shaft length is 51mm best I can tell. Those part #'s ending in 15(97mm) or 16(112mm) have wrong shaft length. I dont know where we are getting mixed up on this. That package is the actual package my shocks came in and part number is on lable 101850. On the page that I ordered them from MPN is 101850. If you go to item description it gives shaft part # and when I google it, it comes back as 51mm length. I think Ill change oil in mine and get shaft length measurement just to be sure. Yes gray springs are softer and better suited for bashing. The reds are stiffer and better for high jumps and speed runs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Ghost- View Post
    So i know without pictures this thread isn't mean much... so now that i got them installed on with the pics!!!

    The original Traxxas Stampede 4x4 Shocks next to the new Vorza 1/8 Shocks:


    Comparison of the two when installed on the rear:


    Comparison of the two from a side view:


    Can see how close they are to the shafts:




    Now the car easily has around a half inch of space below the body and the floor when fully compressed, which for me i kind of like so the car can't bottom out...
    I just noticed your standoffs are on backwards. The point of the standoff is to move the shock away from shock tower. So fat part goes against shock tower and then shock goes on standoff then use a washer on a regular screw or a servo screw with the big head on it to secure shock on stand off. The other thing I noticed is you only need them on front. Yeah its close on rear and others have put standoffs on back to but its not necessary and I dont have them on back as you can see and never had any problems with them like that. shocks.

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    Seems like these shocks are always out of stock. Any other 1/8th options that will work with or without modification? I'd like to be able to land 12' jumps on flat ground without the truck flipping over every time. I currently have the ultimate shocks with hardened shafts, aluminum caps, stock springs and 60 wt oil rear 45 wt front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by korelinlakes View Post
    Seems like these shocks are always out of stock. Any other 1/8th options that will work with or without modification? I'd like to be able to land 12' jumps on flat ground without the truck flipping over every time. I currently have the ultimate shocks with hardened shafts, aluminum caps, stock springs and 60 wt oil rear 45 wt front.
    I have the same, but stock shafts with 80w associated f/r as well as integy green t-maxx springs which are pretty stiff. Oddly, they don't feel that stiff on the truck. 10+ foot drops are hard on it, but it doesn't break. lol
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    Never yall mind.... I will figure this out.....I hope............
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    Nice! Tmaxx springs seem like a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by korelinlakes View Post
    Nice! Tmaxx springs seem like a good idea.
    It was what I had. Many many years ago, I got the integy spring kit for the maxx, which came with a ton of springs. Me being me, I don't throw things away that may have use later down the line. They were still in their wrapper. lol

    Luckily, they fit ok on the collars and seems to work out well. Just wish there was a little more dampening in the shock, but I have a feeling if there was, I'd be busting shock shafts left and right. The fact that I have 90wt in them is ridiculous.

    To see how it reacts with that, check out the vid where I ran it at a BMX track:
    Stampede At BMX

    Those are big jumps and it bottoms out pretty good on the landings. However, it's not so stiff that it's hard to drive on that loose gravel. If it was too stiff, it would be all over the place. It's pretty plush feeling really.

    The springs are a little big, but they stay in place:


    Guessing the D8 shocks would make for a more plush landing from big air.
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    Quote Originally Posted by korelinlakes View Post
    Seems like these shocks are always out of stock. Any other 1/8th options that will work with or without modification? I'd like to be able to land 12' jumps on flat ground without the truck flipping over every time. I currently have the ultimate shocks with hardened shafts, aluminum caps, stock springs and 60 wt oil rear 45 wt front.
    Ultra shocks? I have a parts list in my previous posts you could buy the individual parts and build yourself. Shocks are body, caps, shaft, pistion, seals rod ends. Not hard to put together... just an idea...

    I was doing 9'+ and those shocks are spectacular. Like landing on a pillow lol.

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    olds 97,

    Looks like your shocks are getting overworked like mine. Here's a vid of my truck "gracefully landing" a big jump... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmV9...ature=youtu.be

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    Briber, yeah I meant ultra shocks. I'll look through your posts to see what I could piece together. Thank you for sharing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by korelinlakes View Post
    olds 97,

    Looks like your shocks are getting overworked like mine. Here's a vid of my truck "gracefully landing" a big jump... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmV9...ature=youtu.be
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    Quote Originally Posted by korelinlakes View Post
    Briber, yeah I meant ultra shocks. I'll look through your posts to see what I could piece together. Thank you for sharing.
    Yw like I said just a thought if you really wanted them. I used ultras with Integy progressive springs which are really good sets of springs. Get the 3 packs with black, red & yellow springs. Put yellows on and youll never bottom out, but terrible for bashing lol....
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