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    Tire balancers

    How are you guys balancing the x maxx tires? I have a losi balancer but the xmaxx tires are to big for it. Cant reverse the losi one. Itís okay for 1/8 and 1/10. Canít seem to find a taller balancer That will work. The integy adaptors donít fit the traxxas lug nut. Any ideas would be most appreciated.

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    I have a Track Star and i repositioned the balancer on the stand and redrilled new holes mounting it on the edge and then I clamp it to the edge of the table and i've been able to do my Jumbo Congs which are 8 in. tall and 4 1/2 wide and that's worked for me. Hope this helps

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    I made mine out of spare parts and some wood. I can use it on my Xmaxx, Emaxx, and Summitt.





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    ^^^thats a nice design--may have to make one . thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReglarGuy View Post
    I made mine out of spare parts and some wood. I can use it on my Xmaxx, Emaxx, and Summitt.





    Very impressive i must say

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    Details on how this goes together is there a hole in the block of wood for the bolt head to go into.
    You don't need a hole. All you need is these Emaxx parts: one axle carrier, two of its outside bearings, one of it's inside bearings, and one Emaxx 17mm axle adapter and nut. Then hit the hardware store for a 8mm bolt/nut, an 8mm drill bit, two sheet rock screws with washers, and some scrap wood. The rest is just common practices.

    Here's some more pictures for Xmaxx purposes:





    Also, I used sheet rock screws to put the wood pieces together.
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    Ok i got it thanks, saves me getting in trouble for clamping to the kitchen table lol

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    just curious --did you notice if the stock xmaxx wheel/tire was off much?

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    Just curious--did you notice if the stock Xmaxx wheel/tire was off much?
    Generally, twice as much as what I seen with my Emaxx. I figured it was due to the wheel being moderately bigger. Also, my Proline's were similar.

    How the tire doesn't push against the wood?
    Look at the last picture, and you can see the black electrical tape. Down the road I want to do something better like an E-clip, but until then the tape works good.

    How you lock the blue tire nuts from moving?
    The BLUE nut goes on the wheel. The wheel then goes on the 6mm bolt (up against the BLACK tape). Then you put the 6mm bolt's nut on just tight enough to keep the wheel squeezed between the BLACK tape and the 6mm bolt's nut. That way you can spin the whole tire/6mm bolt assembly on the axle carrier's bearings.

    Have an axle carrier set up the same way right now but mine are 6 mm inside do I need to drill everything to 8mm?
    Sorry, you're right. It's 6mm. I just went down stairs and measured it, and it's definitely 6mm.
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    I guess i never explained properly is where the head of the bolt (socket or wrench) sits inside the carrier does it move a lot back and forth to hinder the rotation of the tire by maybe hitting against the wood I know it's probably minimal and there's not much to be done to stop it I was just curious.
    No, it doesn't move. Reason? Because, you have downward force on the bolt going though the bearings from the weight of the wheel being balance, and the rotation of the wheel isn't significant enough to have any kind of a real effect.

    What is the drill bit for?
    The 6mm drill bit is for drilling all the way though your BLUE 17mm hub adaptor. So, that you can put your 6mm bolt through it.
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    Hey thanks for that, more then makes sense and your efforts are much appreciated hopefully have it finished this week.

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    That owl sure looks interested... Nice rig-up!
    Thank you. It was just a quick thought, so that I could balance my Xmaxx's wheels. I originally made it for my Emaxx's tires, though. I might finesse it down the road for better use with my Xmaxx by installing a couple of axle E-clips...will see.

    Anyway, my owl? (lol) That's Albert the owl, but I call him Al the owl. He will eventually go out on my pools back fence to keep the world's flying feathered poop machines away.
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    Thank you for this i can do my jumbo maxx's with what i have but i only have an 1/8 of an in. clearance and it's clamped to the table this is way easier.
    I hope Al works I have 6 around my garden and chicken coop and none of the birds are bothered by the owls lol the owls do get dive bombed by the ravens but the ravens still raid the cherry trees lol check your mail it's full.
    Have you tried a cutting blade on a dremel in a stand with the bolt in a drill press and circle the bolt to make a ring to add the c-clip just a thought.
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    What I do every time I get a new RC car is tape the holes inside of my tires with blue painter's tape (duct tape works fine too). That way, water and dust cannot get into the tires so I don't have the wobbly nightmares of unbalanced tires.

    Also, please.. don't drill holes in your tires. You'll just ruin the foams more. It's a temporary fix, but once you run them through water again, and again, and again, then your foams will eventually wear out and your tire will be completely ruined. Then you'll have to spend about 70$ for a new set, which I'm pretty sure you don't want to do.
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    Have you tried a cutting blade on a dremel in a stand with the bolt in a drill press and circle the bolt to make a ring to add the c-clip just a thought.
    I'm either going to do it that way, or I'm going to put it in a drill press and use a jeweler's file.

    What I do every time I get a new RC car is tape the holes inside of my tires with blue painter's tape (duct tape works fine too).
    I do that too if/when I run in anything remotely wet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MindBlown View Post
    What I do every time I get a new RC car is tape the holes inside of my tires with blue painter's tape (duct tape works fine too). That way, water and dust cannot get into the tires so I don't have the wobbly nightmares of unbalanced tires.

    Also, please.. don't drill holes in your tires. You'll just ruin the foams more. It's a temporary fix, but once you run them through water again, and again, and again, then your foams will eventually wear out and your tire will be completely ruined. Then you'll have to spend about 70$ for a new set, which I'm pretty sure you don't want to do.
    Just out of curiosity, what would a permanent fix be?

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    The permanent fix is to put tape over your holes when you're running in watery conditions. If you already did get a bunch of water and mud inside your wheel (to do the job right); take everything apart, clean everything, let everything dry, reassemble everything, and remember to tape the holes the next time.
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    Pretty much all 4 of my foams is destroy and unbalance from bashing in snow/wet conditions. Some of my wheel is damaged, so water could get in no matter I tape the hole or not. I will suggest you burn two holes on the tires with a solder iron, and tape the hole on the wheels. The hole is there to spin out water or dust , and also let the air out when you land the truck, otherwise it will be too bouncy.

    PS: No one sells foams for these tires, if yours is destroyed, you either buy a new set or unglue the tires and make your own foam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Townie View Post
    PS: No one sells foams for these tires, if yours is destroyed, you either buy a new set or unglue the tires and make your own foam.
    Stock Xmaxx foams are easy to make.
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    Just take the axle and hub Carrie off of your xmaxx hold in your hand and spin the tire.

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    Fill the holes in the rims with
    E6000 - (thinner- sets quicker)
    Goop - (thicker - longer to set up) etc
    Before anything gets in
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larebow View Post
    Just take the axle and hub Carrie off of your xmaxx hold in your hand and spin the tire.
    Easier way is to remove the driveshaft between the axle and diff. It's already got a mount (the truck) and will freely spin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReglarGuy View Post
    It was just a quick thought, so that I could balance my Xmaxx's wheels.

    Hey ReglarGuy; just a quick question about the balancing of the tires. I know that you mentioned to balance tires, one must completely disassemble, clean and reinstall the tires to the rims. So if completely new (glued) tires are unbalanced, is there a way to add or secure weights to the inner rim to avoid going through the hassle of boiling the tires off the rims?

    I'd like to see some ideas of how you are balancing tires that are previously glued without disassembly. I already blocked the rim holes off, so the insides are clean; but I would really hate to have to rip brand new tires off perfectly good rims to balance a slightly unbalanced tire.
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    Now, you don't have to completely disassemble, clean and reinstall the tires to the rims to balance them. When the Xmaxx first came out many of the tires were improperly glued to the rims. There were big gaps between the rubber and the rims, and because of this, you had to redo them before they would balance out without the use of a lot of weight.

    Another reason (back then) was, because the original Xmaxx tires would balloon easily and rip. To keep this from happening you had to take the wheels apart to tape them up. Now, Traxxas makes a better wheel, and they are 8s rated, so you shouldn't have to go though that hassle anymore for them to balance out.

    All you should have to do now is just spin and balance. To add and secure weights to the inside of your rim, I use lead weight and secure them to my rim by using 100% silicon sealant. You can easily get a tube from any NAPA store.
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    I've been using this for 3 yrs now and have never had a piece come off and it works extremely well and fairly easy to remove or add for adjustments.

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    What I find to be handy is having lead plates bigger than what I need, so that I can cut them down to what I need. That way I don't have to keep adding a bunch of smaller weights to get the weight I need. These weights (I show in the picture) are used for Derby Racers, and are available in most (LHS). I also like that they come with adhesive tape on the back of each weight.

    How I do it is, first, I put the weights on using masking tape to see if the weight is right. If not, I cut and try different size pieces until they do. Them, I stick the weight on using its' adhesive tape, and from there I silicon them into place. I have found that the silicon does two things for me. One, it keeps water and dirt from getting under the adhesive tape, so that the weight stays on better. And two, it adds extra adhesive strength to the weight to minimize the chance of the weight from flinging off during a high speed run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double G View Post
    Easier way is to remove the driveshaft between the axle and diff. It's already got a mount (the truck) and will freely spin.
    Kind of what I was thinking only mount them on the front hubs


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    Quote Originally Posted by Double G View Post
    Easier way is to remove the driveshaft between the axle and diff. It's already got a mount (the truck) and will freely spin.
    Well, there's pro's and con's for both techniques. The pro for using your truck is that you don't have to make anything, and the con is you have to take your truck apart to balance your wheels.

    The pro with the balance stand is, when you want to balance a tire, you just grab your balance stand and go. The disadvantage is that you do have to make it.

    In my professional amateur opinion, if you only had to balance a new set of tires, every once in a while, I'd use the truck method. For me, though, my problem was that every once in a while I'll throw a weight on only one wheel. When that happens, I don't want to have to go through all the trouble of taking my truck apart just to balance one lousy wheel. Four wheels, okay. One wheel...eeek.

    Making a balancing stand only takes a few minutes...about a half hour. Once made, you'll save a lot of time in the future not having to take your truck apart each and every time you want to balance only one wheel...4 wheels is the frosting on a cake.

    If you do decide to use the truck method, though, consider using the back wheel. It won't turn side-to-side (when you spin your tire) like your front will. In the beginning of your spin; not a problem, but as the wheel slows down (and, if you need just a little more spin to nail down your sweet spot) it can give you a false reading...think of it as "gyro resistance torque" for the purpose of producing an error voltage.
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    ReglarGuy, you should at least look into the lead golfing tape IMHO lol. It takes a lot less per tire then any weights in your picture, it has an adhesive backing, no waiting for silicone to dry, and it never comes off in all the water running we do and is no thicker then paper. I have never used more then 5 paper thin peices per tire that are an inch or so long. Just a thought and it's easier to work with.


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    Yep, I'm planning to. At the very least it should work on my XO-1 wheels. If it works on my other stuff too...great. If not, using your tape for my XO-1 will be good enough for me.
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    ŅIs really necessary to balance the X-Maxx tires?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juanmacine View Post
    ŅIs really necessary to balance the X-Maxx tires?
    I'm not sure it's necessary for all out bashing but I find it helps especially after taping the inside of tires to get rid of the wobble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rain Dawg View Post
    I'm not sure it's necessary for all out bashing but I find it helps especially after taping the inside of tires to get rid of the wobble.
    Thanks, I understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juanmacine View Post
    ŅIs really necessary to balance the X-Maxx tires?
    You don't have to. In other words, life will still go on if you don't. But, if you do keep your wheels balanced there's less stress on your bearings, which means, you'll get better life out of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReglarGuy View Post
    You don't have to. In other words, life will still go on if you don't. But, if you do keep your wheels balanced there's less stress on your bearings, which means, you'll get better life out of them.
    Thanks, I understand the reason, bearings wear fast with unbalanced wheels and is a high cost replace.

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