New extreme Heavy-Duty Steel driveshafts

[StijnH]

Traxxas released new driveshafts for the Hoss and other 4x4 (Rustler 4x4, Slash 4x4, Stampede 4x4)

https://traxxas.com/news/hoss-extrem...ty-driveshafts



Always nice to have more options if you need beefier driveshafts.
They're not cheap $80 for a pair.


I'll skip these, waiting the release of the "ultra super way more heavy-duty driveshafts" .

[olds97_lss]

Those look really nice. Guessing they will sell all the parts for rebuilds at some point.

[GotNoRice]

Interesting that they are actually more expensive than the MIP X-Duty CVDs, which I believe were already the most expensive metal CVD option. It seems that they are very similar to the MIP design, especially the splines. Hopefully that means they are just as durable.

I guess it never really did make sense for them to not have an equivalent, given that when you get something like a Hoss or upgrade a Stampede 4x4, upgrading to heavy-duty metal shafts basically becomes a requirement. Now you can do that with all Traxxas parts. Only shame is that if you got these in addition to a Hoss, you're past the price of a Maxx at that point.

[Thomas P]

I hope they hold up better then the MIP, i went with TEKNO, untill i can get ma hands on this one ��

[olds97_lss]

Interesting that they are actually more expensive than the MIP X-Duty CVDs, which I believe were already the most expensive metal CVD option. It seems that they are very similar to the MIP design, especially the splines. Hopefully that means they are just as durable.

I guess it never really did make sense for them to not have an equivalent, given that when you get something like a Hoss or upgrade a Stampede 4x4, upgrading to heavy-duty metal shafts basically becomes a requirement. Now you can do that with all Traxxas parts. Only shame is that if you got these in addition to a Hoss, you're past the price of a Maxx at that point.

And if you drive the maxx hard, you spend another $100 on steel cvd's for it... which in hindsight, isn't that much. lol!

[olds97_lss]

I hope they hold up better then the MIP, i went with TEKNO, untill i can get ma hands on this one ��

I ran my MIP's for 3 years before finally breaking one. $12 replacement part and I was good to go.

You had issues with the X-duty's?

[Thomas P]

I ran my MIP's for 3 years before finally breaking one. $12 replacement part and I was good to go.

You had issues with the X-duty's?

Yes sir, snapped the axles where the joint are , stampede ans FLm maxx, abd in sweden they (MIP) are 90$ a pair,

[alendrew11]

I think these are reliable and also affordable for which I was waiting.....

[olds97_lss]

Yes sir, snapped the axles where the joint are , stampede ans FLm maxx, abd in sweden they (MIP) are 90$ a pair,

They weren't cheap, but not as much here. Think I got mine for $140 for all 4. The $12 was just for the part I broke, the bell shaped part split where the pin went through it. The RPM arm allowed it to flex so far that it bent further than the joint allowed.

[TwoBelugas]

I’m not sure I’m onboard fully, I’m sure they tested it enough but the skinny shafts and the 5mm stub axle with hole through it gives me pause.

Oh and the price too.

But I’m sure they will sell plenty of it with every hobby shop hanging it on their walls.

[olds97_lss]

I’m not sure I’m onboard fully, I’m sure they tested it enough but the skinny shafts and the 5mm stub axle with hole through it gives me pause.

Oh and the price too.

But I’m sure they will sell plenty of it with every hobby shop hanging it on their walls.

Yeah, MIP changed their axle from one with a pin through it to one with a flat spots on it, but then you can only use MIP's 12mm hex's as they key to the flat spots on the shaft. Not a huge issue, and they are metal, so as long as you don't lose one, or strip out the 1.5mm set screw... I was able to use 12->17mm 5mm offset adapters from hot racing with them. Although, finding 1/2" offset 17mm 2.8 wheels is a bit of a challenge.

[zedorda]

I will use keyed over pinned stub axles anyday. I have seen so many Traxxas branded stub axles break, I can't believe that still use the style. Unless that is the real point.

[TwoBelugas]

I have seen so many Traxxas branded stub axles break, I can't believe that still use the style. Unless that is the real point.

[TwoBelugas]

Yeah, MIP changed their axle from one with a pin through it to one with a flat spots on it, but then you can only use MIP's 12mm hex's as they key to the flat spots on the shaft. Not a huge issue, and they are metal, so as long as you don't lose one, or strip out the 1.5mm set screw... I was able to use 12->17mm 5mm offset adapters from hot racing with them. Although, finding 1/2" offset 17mm 2.8 wheels is a bit of a challenge.

Did you not like the look of the MIP 17mm adapter?

[olds97_lss]

Did you not like the look of the MIP 17mm adapter?

I think theirs are intended for the pin type/stock axles and not their own with the flat spot instead. Either way, I wanted the extra width the hot racing adapters gave me as well, which key to the 12mm hex and add 6mm in width to each side.

[zedorda]

Did you not like the look of the MIP 17mm adapter?

I bought the MIP 17mm adapters with my axles but they were imo a complete pita to use. And I liked the style of the hot racing 17mm adapters keeping the 12mm hex since I still use 12mm with certain setups. The thin profile of the MIP 17mm nuts are a lot harder to deal with and for some reason several of my rims were a tight fit on the MIP adapters. The hot racing ones fit much better to my variety of rims and I can grip their nuts much better.

[Squeegie]

^What he said.

[Role]

Guys stick with the plastic shafts , the metal ones never last either , other stuff breaks - diff gears..... I have a bin full of the metal ones, GPM , traxxas, MIP , hot racing , they are also very heavy - kill the slipper , and there is no give or flexing . everything I used metal ones something else broke, even my shock e clips snapped from all the suspension weight

[Role]

I forgot to add : They also bin rather quickly if running in sand

[fortunespoonz]

What do these shafts weigh? Seems like too much rotating mass for my tastes....

[ElectricPropils]

What do these shafts weigh? Seems like too much rotating mass for my tastes....

Yeah, I don't think that people take rotating mass into consideration. They just want the biggest and beefiest drive shaft possible. I personally care about the performance of my model. That's why I like the thin steel drive shafts that Traxxas uses on models like the E-revo and X-maxx. They just wear the drive cups soo bad and I like minimizing maintenance as little as possible.

[Role]

The GPM ones are even aluminum in the middle and they still are crazy heavy once you compare them to plastic shafts

[ElectricPropils]

The GPM ones are even aluminum in the middle and they still are crazy heavy once you compare them to plastic shafts

Yeah, it would be neat to find out the difference in performance that heavier axles cause, someone should do a test. I think that with the amount of access power that brushless motors produce nowadays you probably wouldn't notice the performance difference unless under extreme conditions.

[Role]

its easier to replace driveshaft than diff gears

[Squeegie]

I haven't had a problem running MIP X-Duties on my Slash 4x4. I actually like the weight down low to help lower my center of gravity and added stability it provides.

[zedorda]

its easier to replace driveshaft than diff gears

I have not broke a diff yet on my Monster Slash running 8th scale power but me and Shack351 had the same opinion on how to build a proper bulletproof diff and I been using them since day one.

The idea is you can't just upgrade one part and assume the next weakest link won't be next to break. When I built my Monster Slash I planned from motor pinion to wheel hex to handle the power I had planned for the rig. You know with mathes. I also planned out my entire suspension geometry to avoid the binding that MIP warns about in the literature that comes with the axles.

Sometime it is not just as easy as tossing on some axles and calling it a day.

[olds97_lss]

I haven't had a problem running MIP X-Duties on my Slash 4x4. I actually like the weight down low to help lower my center of gravity and added stability it provides.

Me either on my slampede. I think I've replaced the bearings on the diffs once and I vaguely remember a diff going out on me, but it was due to the bulkhead cracking and then the diff moved around and messed up the mesh. Otherwise, the MIP's haven't "caused" any issues, other than letting me run hard through pack after pack without the sliders snapping off.

[Etosch]

So... what's your vote: new extreme Heavy-Duty Steel driveshafts or the known XO-1 driveshafts?

Cu, Etosch