Help with 17mm adaptors and wheel offsets.

[Chase11A]

As the title says I could use some guidance. I’ve got a slash 4x4 and will be ordering 17mm adaptors when I decide what I need. I’m running mip xduty’s and I believe I’ve read that they limit some options (I could be wrong). So I’ve got an open wheel body in the mail and I’m looking at different wheels to run with the 17mm adaptors, obviously the various adaptors add width to the car and wheels are various offsets. The larger overarching question being what combinations make sense with regard to adaptor width and associated wheel offset, and more specifically i was looking at a bead lock with a 6mm offset intended for the udr and was wondering what 17mm adaptor width would work well with them if at all? Appreciate the insight.

[Invincibl]

Can you link the wheel? if the wheel is a 17 mm, then they should work just fine.

[Chase11A]

Right, 17mm to 17mm isn’t really what I’m concerned with, it’s more the severity in the change of track width, the wheel has an offset and the adaptors add various lengths from 6mm, 10mm, to 13mm etc. So you either maintain a similar track width, get wider, or obviously more narrow (possibly too narrow if the wheel had too much offset)

[olds97_lss]

If you have the MIP X-Duty's that have a hex that key to a flat spot on the shaft, you need adapters that go from 12mm->17mm like I run on my stampede. I'm aware of 2 good ones from hot racing. One adds 6mm offset, the other adds 10mm offset.

I don't have a slash, so can't help you with which will work on it.

6mm: https://hot-racing.com/?partnumber=WH17HS01;c=480
10mm: https://hot-racing.com/?partnumber=WH17HT01;c=811

There are cheap ones that add nearly no offset, but rely on a washer to hold the wheel on:
https://www.amazon.com/Mxfans-Titani.../dp/B073ZBDRTH

There are cheaper ones that add width but use an elongated "not sure of material" nut vs the steel barrel nut the HR's use:
https://www.amazon.com/4-Pack-Adapte.../dp/B07KKKFYKK
https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-Offse.../dp/B07TTQYTZY

MIP's might work if you lock the set screws down on the flat spots and make sure to shim the space between the bearings with a bit of play for crush spacers, or when you tighten the nut, it will put side load on the bearings and destroy them:
https://www.amazon.com/MIP-17mm-Hex-.../dp/B009W1I1V8

According to the blurb on MIP's site, they should work with both kinds of axles:
https://www.miponline.com/MIP-17mm-H...x4-Rally-10115

This kit will work with both stock "Pinned" axles and all "Keyed" MIP axles (X-duty's or Race Duty's)

Just won't be quite as solid as using the steel hex's that come with the MIP's and using a 12->17mm adapter instead.

[Squeegie]

MIP also has a 17mm hex option for their axles:
https://www.miponline.com/MIP-17mm-H...x4-Rally-10115

Personally, I did not like their adapter kit. It was very thin and fit very tight. I have several set of tires and swapping them was difficult because of their tight fitment. If you only have one set of wheels, they may appeal to you.

I ended up using the Hot Racing 12 to 17mm adapters (6 and 10mm offsets) and still stand by them. I currently run the 10mm offset on my rig:

6mm offset:
https://hot-racing.com/?partnumber=WH17HS01;c=480

10mm offset:
https://hot-racing.com/?partnumber=WH17HT01;c=480

OP: What is your desired goal? What do you want your rig to look like? What body are you planning on running? Without knowing, we cannot make a recommendation as to what works with your setup.

You mentioned a set of wheels for the UDR. URD does use a 17mm hex, but the hole in the wheels is for the standard 5mm axle. Makes it difficult to find aftermarket wheels to fit.

I assume that you have a Slash 4x4 and want to put UDR wheels/tires on it? UDR tires have their own specific beads on them and cannot use just any SC (2.2/3.0) wheel.

The tires from the DB8 Nomad fit standard SC wheels:



I also put UDR tires (Pro-Line Hyrax) on standard SC wheels. To do this is a pain. I had to flip the wheels inside out and do a lot of trimming on the inner beads. Looks great, but was a lot of work to get it done:


https://forums.traxxas.com/showthrea...=1#post6556099

Have fun!

[Chase11A]

MIP also has a 17mm hex option for their axles:
https://www.miponline.com/MIP-17mm-H...x4-Rally-10115

Personally, I did not like their adapter kit. It was very thin and fit very tight. I have several set of tires and swapping them was difficult because of their tight fitment. If you only have one set of wheels, they may appeal to you.

I ended up using the Hot Racing 12 to 17mm adapters (6 and 10mm offsets) and still stand by them. I currently run the 10mm offset on my rig:

6mm offset:
https://hot-racing.com/?partnumber=WH17HS01;c=480

10mm offset:
https://hot-racing.com/?partnumber=WH17HT01;c=480

OP: What is your desired goal? What do you want your rig to look like? What body are you planning on running? Without knowing, we cannot make a recommendation as to what works with your setup.

You mentioned a set of wheels for the UDR. URD does use a 17mm hex, but the hole in the wheels is for the standard 5mm axle. Makes it difficult to find aftermarket wheels to fit.

I assume that you have a Slash 4x4 and want to put UDR wheels/tires on it? UDR tires have their own specific beads on them and cannot use just any SC (2.2/3.0) wheel.

The tires from the DB8 Nomad fit standard SC wheels:



I also put UDR tires (Pro-Line Hyrax) on standard SC wheels. To do this is a pain. I had to flip the wheels inside out and do a lot of trimming on the inner beads. Looks great, but was a lot of work to get it done:


https://forums.traxxas.com/showthrea...=1#post6556099

Have fun!

Thanks, I was talking to Arthur from vitavon and I was asking if the udr wheels fit and he was giving me a thumbs up so I wasn’t sure but I was starting to think he was saying they do fit lol. I think I have something else figured out now just waiting to see if it pans out. I have a slash 4x4 and have a megalodon body in the mail, I have rear gtr shocks all the way around now so I’m going to need new body mounts, maybe the adjustable jconcepts. Anyways I just didn’t want soo much offset that the wheels are hanging crazy far out on that open body. I love your truck btw, very cool.

[Squeegie]

If Arthur comes up with an aluminum 17mm beadlock SC wheel that can take UDR tires, let us know. That is what I originally wanted. Even if he has standard bead 17mm beadlock SC wheels would be great!

[Chase11A]

If Arthur comes up with an aluminum 17mm beadlock SC wheel that can take UDR tires, let us know. That is what I originally wanted. Even if he has standard bead 17mm beadlock SC wheels would be great!

Will update when I know more